Archive for the 'Location' Category

Where 2.0

The Where 2.0 conference was last week in Burlingame, CA in sunny Northern California where they were apparently having a heat wave. The heat, while not quit “right” for the area, was a highly enjoyable experience having come from (and returned to) the chilly, rainy East Coast.

The conference this year was a more enjoyable experience mostly because I went with the goal of just trying to talk to and learn from the people that I met rather than freak out about not being a crack programmer/hacker.

While hackers and geowankers are the people who pushed mapping for the masses (I’m not overly fond of the word neogeography) into the public eye over the past few years they are not the only ones who care about location and information. However, they are the ones who can make things work. Since I get frustrated with my limitations wrt programming the decision to just talk to people about why they were at the conference and to exchange thoughts with people was a good move.

I spent a lot of time talking to a very diverse guy named Thomas (website) about web stuff (he’s done a lot of web design), geo stuff, travel, family, and writing. It was good to have someone to bounce thoughts about the conference off of as compared to last year where I didn’t feel comfortable talking to many people. There was a wider range of participants this year: academics looking to expand their curricula, hackers, journalists, employees of the big guys, and people like me who are wondering where they can fit in now. It was interesting however to hear non hacker/programmers referred to as “tourists” on the back channel. Maybe that concept stems from how this conference developed and who was around when it first started four years ago. I wasn’t - I just found it last year.

And the back channel (IRC), now that was in interesting find. I was talking to a guy at lunch on the first day who said that he used IRC when he was programming. I had to ask what IRC was. Turns out I apparently had just forgotten about it because it wasn’t something that I had to use anymore after grad school. It’s sort of a Chat or IM service for groups and a lot of programmers still use it when they are fiddling with stuff in the middle of the night - because it’s not the middle of the night everywhere in the world and someone will be awake to help them out. Anyway, on the second day I decided to see if there was a channel for the conference and low and behold there was. And with a few minutes of experimentation and a quick trial download of mIRC I was on my way (I’ve since discovered Mibbit which will work for me at work). Wow, can those guys/gals? be catty! Brady stepped in at one point to rein them in but over all the commentary was pretty cool . Something that they (the conference peeps) might consider next year is streaming the IRC channel on stage - I got this idea from the woman I sat next to on the return flight to NYC. She said that is what they do at USC where she teaches and it allows for commenting/questioning but is almost self-policed in terms of cattiness. People tend to watch what they say when the anonymity is partially removed. While I liked the conversation alongside the presentations (it provided some valid commentary) - in this particular case it felt a little elitist.

After the conference I headed to sunny Oakland (which is often sunny anyway but was HOT this time) to spend some quality time with friends and not think so much about geography except to enjoy my current location.

More coordinate transformations…

While trying to figure out spheres, spheroids, ellipsoids, and geoids I came across this page: http://earth-info.nga.mil/GandG/geotrans/index.html

It’s the DoD unclassified coordinate transformation tool called GEOTRANS.

I haven’t used it, but hey, another tool is another tool.

The NGA Coordinate Systems Analysis page has some links to other cool tools and reference information.

Modite and Toponymy

Today I stumbled across too many weird words to ignore without comment.

The first is the word Modite which is a made-up word combining “Modern” with “Urbanite”. It’s a cute word and is the title of a blog written by a Gen Yer who lives in Madison, WI. While I have no desire to comment on the content of her blog, nor am I attacking Ms. Modite nor anyone from Madison, WI, I do want to comment on the practice of referring to someone from Madison, WI as an urbanite. Madison is not really my idea of urban - urban to me is NYC, San Francisco, Paris, London, Tokyo even Sacramento or Denver. You know, big cities. Lots of people.

Some basic demographics numbers (US only) show that Madison is roughly half the size (in terms of total population and/or # or households) of Sacramento which is only now getting paid attention to as an urban place of interest despite the fact that it is the state capital…

Populated Place Total Population Total Households
Los Angeles 3,913,784 1,302,284
Sacramento 462,891 171,798
San Francisco 725,153 319,436
Denver 560,036 241,519
Boston 548,142 230,814
New York 8,192,427 3,026,972
Madison 222,493 97,484
Entire US 301,825,750 113,136,906

Demographic data © 2007 by Experian/Applied Geographic Solutions.
© 2007

The census uses the term “Urban population size group” to refer to the classification used in standard tabulations where urban areas are distributed according to the following predetermined size groups, based on the current census population.

http://www.census2006.ca/english/census01/Products/Reference/dict/geo051.htm

1,000 - 2,499
2,500 - 4,999
5,000 - 9,999
10,000 - 24,999
25,000 - 49,999
50,000 - 99,999
100,000 - 249,999
250,000 - 499,999
500,000 - 999,999
1,000,000 and over

Turns out, my idea of a city that “feels” urban, is those of around population 500K+. I came to this conclusion after reviewing the ranked 2007 population estimates for all recognized census “populated places” source EASI. (Download spreadsheet: Population 1/07)

While the US Census may consider Madison, WI urban in terms of geography- it just isn’t, well, urban to me. I suppose one could argue that being an “urbanite” or feeling “urban” is a state of mind - the author of the blog is certain forward thinking and on the way up in the world, but to me, Madison, WI is a hip college town not an urban center. And yes, I’ve been there,  and had a great time.

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So then there was the word toponymy.

This one really threw me for a loop - so i decided to investigate. I had never heard of the term and it was being used in reference with geographic place names. If you go to the link above- which is for a compendium of data problems in Google Earth (dated from 2006) - and scroll down the page - you can see where it is being used. It sticks out - “Place Names (Toponymy)” - the only label with additional information. Why?

The general consensus is that “toponym” is a synonym for “place name” and “toponymy” is the study of why a place has it’s name. It is not about locating a place or defining the spelling of a place (hyphen missing and the like) as is implied by its use in the compendium list. (Although, as an aside, how the spelling has changed could be a part of the “why” of a place name.)

So while it was clever thing to add, I really think that it is being misused on the compendium post.

Anyway, just for fun I added a bunch of dictionary sources one of which seems to stand on it’s own.

OED:
1. The place-names of a country or district as a subject of study.
2. Anat. (See quot.)
1882 WILDER & GAGE Anat. Techn. 20 Terms of Position and DirectionToponymy. Ibid. 23 The Intrinsic Toponymy… We..shall designate the aspects and regions of the body by terms derived from names which have been applied to the parts themselves. 1899 in Syd. Soc. Lex.
So toponymal a., of or pertaining to toponymy; toponymical a. = prec. adj.; toponymist, one who deals with place-names.
1891 Cent. Dict., *Toponymal.

Wikipedia:
Toponymy refers to the scientific study of place-names (toponyms), their origins, meanings, use and typology.

World book online reference center:
to|pon|y|my «tuh PON uh mee», noun.

  • the place names of a country or district as a subject of study. (hmmm, this is exactly the same as the OED…)
  • Obsolete. the naming or the names of areas of the body.
  • Hutchinson Encyclopaedia:
    toponym -n. name of, or designating, a place; name derived from a place- name. toponymic, a. toponymics n. study of place-names. toponymy, n. region’s place-names.

    And just one more definition…